"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
07/21/2019 at 12:48 • Filed to: None
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"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
07/21/2019 at 12:48 • Filed to: None | 2
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During our Oppo Meet drive yesterday, we came across somebody doing something dumb (passing in a double yellow) while being followed by the police. Karmic justice was served immediately and I am sure the perpetrator regretted that decision. I do have some sympathy, that damn box truck was going slow as hell and could have just pulled over. Speed limit there is 55mph and we were probably doing 45 for a while. That is also a pretty safe spot to pass with the turn lane, straight road, and good sight distance. Plus who expects that pickup truck a couple cars back to be a cop? Still, its always dumb to pull stuff like that with other people around in any regard. I cant say I havent passed people there but to do so with a cop there and a bicyclist at risk , well you get what’s coming to you!
On a side note, I have no idea if the state park police actually have any jurisdiction there. They probably can’t write tickets but egregious shit like that happening right in front of them is surely going to at least get a talking to. But I could be wrong, they might have full police authority. I know most of that area is CHP territory but I am sure they work together when possible.
jimz
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/21/2019 at 13:00 |
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On a side note, I have no idea if the state park police actually have any jurisdiction there. They probably can’t write tickets but egregious shit like that happening right in front of them is surely going to at least get a t alking to. But I could be wrong, they might have full police authority. I know most of that area is CHP territory but I am sure they work together when possible.
does that road run through a state park? I know where I live, officers with the Michigan Department of Natural Resources have police authority inside of state parks.
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/21/2019 at 13:07 |
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Wow, I too have mixed feelings. I know the frustrations of being stuck behind a slowpoke, especially on a nice road like that, but the law’s the law.
Also, as far as I can work out, State Park Police are peace officers and as such do have the jurisdiction to write a ticket for something like that.
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Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
> jimz
07/21/2019 at 13:30 |
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I am pretty sure the entire area is the “Santa Monica Mountains Recreation area” which is probably state run if its not federal. I know CHP patrols most of the roads generally but its not like there is a clear designation of entering a state park.
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jimz
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/21/2019 at 13:31 |
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oh yeah, they don’t have
exclusive
authority; Michigan State Police often patrols parks too. it’s just that the DNR is authorized to perform police duties in parks rather than having to be security guards and wait for the state troopers to arrive. Basically they are authorized to cite
/detain/arrest offenders, but IIRC will turn them over to the MSP for further criminal proceedings if necessary.
Svend
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/21/2019 at 13:52 |
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The police may not have jurisdiction but if it’s anything like the U.K. they may have the powers to stop and request a suitable force attend such as when a Scottish police force (Police Scotland) officer stop a car in England, in my case Cumbria, being Cumbria Constabulary area. They can stop and place under what’s similar to a citizens arrest until a Cumbria Constabulary officer attends the scene to take the arrest and the Police Scotland officer is then treated as a witness .
Or they can res pon d in what we would call a ‘ Mutual Aid’ capacity, where a police force grants another, usually a neighboring police force, full powers within it’s jurisdiction or certain powers (ie the powers or arrest but not or actively pursuing a case or using firearms unless under immediate threat, etc...).
CompactLuxuryFan
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/21/2019 at 15:05 |
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Meh. I think the real offense was that there was an intersection. Beyond that, the cyclist was already well past and there are tons of passing places in CA that should be dotted but have a solid double yellow instead. I think it has to do with people being so damn shy about passing here. Yes, Carol, it is safer to just complete the pass quickly even if it means you have to exceed the speed limit. First thing they teach you in mountain country is to commit to the pass. People here just wanna dilly- dally in the oncoming lane.
ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com
> Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
07/21/2019 at 15:30 |
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In most states, police officers are certified at the state level. As in, even if you’re park police, or county sheriff , or city of whatever , you’re a certified officer in whatever state, which usually means you’re a law enforcement officer with police powers anywhere and everywhere within that state . That said, most jurisdictions will have some limits on what they allow their officers to do “off the reservation” as a matter of policy, generally for reasons of liability and court venues . E ven if a cop decided to play off the reservation in violation of their department policy, it has nothing to do with the legality of the police action they take from the perspective of the person, cited/stopped/arrested... I mean, I guess that person could file a complaint with the cop’s department to get them in trouble , but it’s not going to impact their citation/court case.